Tuesday, April 20, 2010

Heavy Load

This picture was taken in the 1890's and shows a group of loggers hauling a heavy load. It is hard to even picture how they got the logs stacked that high. It is also hard to imagine how they keep it from tipping over.


    I rally can't imagine those poor horses being able to pull that load.
    You would think that if the load was smaller, then the horses would be able to go faster and make more trips in a day. And easier to load and the chances of tipping over a lot less also.

  2. In Finland we have a story about a logger and his horse.

    The logger put a huge log in the sleigh and said: -If you can pull that, so you can also this. And so he added another and third and so on, till the load was so big, that the horse could not make it move.

    - Well, the man said, if you can't pull this, you can't neither this. And so he took away all logs, seated himself into the sleigh and lifted the last log on his shoulder to make it lighter to pull.

  3. I needed this laugh, kariav, this morning.
    Feel soooo sorry for the horses.

  4. I might be totally wrong but this picture looks weird and photoshopped...

  5. It's one of a series. In another one, there are planks leaning up on the stack and the horses are pulling chains to hoist logs onto the sled.

    Quite a real situation, but one I can't understand unless they had to haul them a VERY long distance over a VERY flat route. The time to get them all loaded and the perils of moving such a huge pile of lumber would seem to make this rather impractical.

  6. I had a poster size copy of this photo before photo-shop was around. An associate told me his grandpa was in the photo and that this team won a contest, held locally among loggers, for moving that unusual load the required distance. I gave him the poster.

  7. I guess I never thought of it, but we use to call those chains they are using LOG CHAINS when I was young.
    We used them for almost every thing but logs, but we called them log chains.

  8. Pope George RingoApril 20, 2010 at 9:16 AM

    AMAZING PHOTO! Probably took it before they hitched on about four or eight more horses.

  9. The biggest mystery to me is that top guy. He's standing on a cylindrical object that's completely coated with snow and ice. HOW DOES HE NOT FALL DOWN?! AND HOW THE HELL DID HE GET UP THERE?!

    As for the logs not tipping over, they've bound the logs down pretty tightly, which should be enough to ensure stability.

    I was also curios why they were using a sled instead of something with wheels (which surely would travel easier). Then I realized that I was an idiot and any sort of cart would surely collapse in a second.

    It must be about a billion times easier to be a logger during the summer. Not only is it nice and warm, and the trees easier to cut down, but you can actually use rivers and lakes to transport logs. Using the horse/sled combination must be a real pain in the ass.

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  12. If was easier to cut down trees in the summer time they would have done it. They cut the trees when there is less vegetation in winter. They pull the logs on sledges and take them to the river, they transported the logs when there was plenty of water in the spring.
    Maybe the man could climb and stand atop the logs because he has cleats in his shoes. I'd like to see the whole series of photos.

  13. Good thing PETA wasn't around back then!!

    They definitely wouldn't like THAT - too much for those horses!!

  14. Nah! It wasn't too much for those horses. (Well, maybe that particular load.)

    After seeing this photo this morning, I went over to YouTube and searched on "logging with horses". I found quite a number of good clips on how it is done, winter and summer. The most interesting ones were old b/w films from 1948 and 1920.

    Anyone interested in draft horses should also search on YouTube for "Neil Dimmock". He's a farmer in Alberta who only uses draft horses. He has posted quite a number of good educational videos on the topic.

    My mom (b. 1918) grew up on a dairy farm at the edge of the Ardennes Forest in Belgium. Her father and older brothers used Ardennes horses for all farm work. She often spoke of how strong and gentle they were.

  15. The teamster was paid more than the lumberjacks. Can you imagine riding on a load of logs on an intentionally iced road downhill to the river. Hope the brakes work.

  16. Incredible!!!

    I have never in my life seen anything like this You showed here.

    Maybe this was put into Guinness World Records in old days!

  17. Wow lots of comments and questions here. I log with my teams of Percheron's and Morgan's in the mountains of central Maine and I can tell you it is a lot easier to log in the winter.

    The trees are easier to handle without all the leaves and getting to them is easier while the saplings are leafless as well.

    The sap has run out of them making them much lighter.

    And you can use a sleigh which is ideal for a few reasons. There is a lot less 'drag' or resistance especially once the ground is hard and frosty. Trying to pull a load on soft ground is nearly impossible because skids or wheels stick and sink. The 'drag' created in the summer is unreal compared how easy it is to move a load on the hard ground of winter. Also a sleigh is sturdier, more stable, and much more maneuverable.

    like some others in this thread stated 4-6 more horses were probably hitched to this load. Judging by the yoke rigging on these harnesses connecting more horses would make sense. loads like this were not hauled too far, usually to a nearby river bank to wait for the spring floods.

    Also sleighs do not have breaks on them. the horses would have to stop the load. The poll going between the team is connected to the yokes which are connected to the britching that goes around the horses hind quarters. When the team is asked to slow down the weight of the load is transferred to their hindquarters and they will sit back into it to stop.

    these horses were needed for these mens survival and the survival of their families. men like this respected their horses and did not abuse them. teams like this, trained to do this work were well cared for and very expensive. they are still expensive today. The horses in this picture are not breathing heavy, have no ribs showing, have balanced/good musculature, have nice coats and the hoofs that are up resting are trimmed nicely. theses horses appear to have a good and productive life, one that has a purpose.

    As a person who makes my living with my horses I have nothing but respect for the ingenuity and hard work of these men and their animals.

    I have seen many pictures and old video like this one and they are truly amazing.